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we're talking about on wealthy americans. some of the taxes we have talked about before, limiting those itemized deductions that the wealthy take. closing loopholes on hedge fund managers, oil and gas companies, corporate jet owners and also letting the bush era tax cuts for the wealthiest americans expire when they are set to. also a little more than $1 trillion in war savings. of course, we do know that the wars in afghanistan and iraq are already going to be winding down. and that's something that republicans are hitting on. and frequently both sides have used this when they do th...

Drilling? what thoughts do you have on that issue, eugene, moving forward? >> it's a complicated issue, but i think in the first place drill, baby, drill can't be a republican slogan and people are going to be suspicious ofç offshore drilling after what they've seen. by the same token, you and i both know that offshore oil drilling is really important to the economy, especially of the gulf coast. and it is part of president obama's overall vision of the energy future of the united states. so i also think the position to take is not going to be let's ban all offshore drilling. i think the saf...

>> you would think at a minimum people would come to the conclusion if depth was the problem in terms of fixing it, then you shouldn't be drilling that the depth. >> exactly. i think the depth is going to be one variable that's going to depend, that's going to determine what positions people take. and now, does this give real impetus to the president's initiative to try to get an energy bill through and do people pay attention, pay more attention when politicians talk about. >> gene, i've got to wrap. i appreciate your time. thank you sir. when we return, what's a republican gubernatorial cand...

Gene, about the prognosis on that issue moving forward? >> it's a complicated issue but basically, i think the first principal is that drill, baby, drill can't be a republican slogan. people are going to be suspicious of offshore drilling after what they've seen. by the same token, you and i both know that offshore oil drilling is -- is really important to the economy, essentially of the gulf coast. and it is part of president obama's overall vision of the energy future of the united states. so i also think the position to take is not going to be let's ban all offshore drilling. i think the sa...

Congress, do not act and remember how often the president said it is the democrats' fault. >> if you notice when i came over, they were all saying about separating the families and that's a democrat bill. that's democrats wanting to do that and they could solve it very easily by getting together. they think it is a good election point. i think it is a horrible election point for them. >> but now with don't waste your time until we elect more republicans, who is playing politics now? well, do not ask jeff sessions because he's having a go of it himself today. >> the american people don't like t...