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are there legitimate privilege issues that would justify him testifying in a transcribed interview limited to specific topics? or should he appear in a more public manner? >> i think he's got to appear in a more public manner, and i don't think there's any privileges in that public area they're focusing on. we've already had courts look at the issue. there's no attorney-client privilege for crime or fraud. cipollone i think has a larger problem. he advised the president against doing these things because there were conspiracies involved, several of them. what's to say that he's ever ...

what happens next. then, more states take action on abortion, after the supreme court decision, with democrats pushing the president to do something more, as the 11th hour gets underway on this wednesday night. good evening, i'm alicia menendez, in for stephanie ruhle. after days a very public invitations to come talk, the january 6th committee tonight has issued a formal subpoena for pets to pallone. the move comes just one day after that devastating testimony from cassidy hutchinson, who -- the former trump white house counsel's actions ahead of him during the insurrection. in a st...

have declined to cooperate with us further, including by providing on the record testimony. we are left with no choice but to issue you this subpoena. earlier this evening, committee member adam schiff had this message for cipollone. >> he ought to show just a small portion of the courage that cassidy hutchinson displayed. he needs to come out of hiding. he needs to do his patriotic duty. >> as we mentioned, cipollone was prominently featured in yesterday's testimony. >> mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, please make sure we don't go up to the capitol, cassidy. please kee...

january 6th. an omnipresent person there. he was involved or present during many of the moments that cassidy hutchison described in her testimony, including this moment. >> i saw mr. cipollone right before i walked out that morning, and he said something to the effect of, please make sure we don't go up to the capitol, cassidy. keep in touch with me. we're going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. >> manu raju is "outfront" live on capitol hill. you heard her recount her conversation with pat cipollone. so this subpoena, obviously significant. ...

revealed to the country yesterday, to witnesses that were to appear before your committee for depositions. do you believe they constitute witness tampering? >> yes, i do. i think that's something that should be looked at by our committee and potentially by the department of justice. i don't think it's lost on anyone that, you know, the former president, you know, has behavior like we heard yesterday. but specific to our witnesses, we take incredibly seriously the safety and security of those individuals who have testified before us, and like the vice chair said, we asked witnesses ro...