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Transcripts For MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240707



testimony fully justified the subpoena to trump white house counsel pat cipollone that the committee issued today. the last time a president was destroyed by a congressional investigation, the white house counsel was a key witness. richard nixon s white house counsel, john dean, helped bring down the nixon presidency, with his testimony in the watergate hearings. and now it looks like pat cipollone could be the witness who locks in donald trump s guilt for the january 6th committee. when presidents break the law, the white house counsel knows. the white house counsel s job is to prevent presidents from breaking the law, among other things. that is to say, prevent them from breaking the law intentionally or, as can happen, unintentionally. when someone in the white house has a bright idea, like banning all muslims from entering the country, it is the white house counsel s job to say, we can t do that, that s unconstitutional. the white house counsel is not the president ....

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Transcripts For MSNBC The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle 20240707



have declined to cooperate with us further, including by providing on the record testimony. we are left with no choice but to issue you this subpoena. earlier this evening, committee member adam schiff had this message for cipollone. he ought to show just a small portion of the courage that cassidy hutchinson displayed. he needs to come out of hiding. he needs to do his patriotic duty. as we mentioned, cipollone was prominently featured in yesterday s testimony. mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, please make sure we don t go up to the capitol, cassidy. please keep in touch with me. we are going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. and do you remember which crimes mr. cipollone was concerned with? in the days leading up to the 6th, we had conversations about potentially obstructing justice or defrauding the electoral count. hutchinson also testified abt cipollone s efforts january 6th to get the president to ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle 20240604 06:00:00

Something more, as the 11th hour gets underway on this wednesday night. good evening, i m alicia menendez, in for stephanie ruhle. after days a very public invitations to come talk, the january 6th committee tonight has issued a formal subpoena for pat cipellone. the move comes just one day after that devastating testimony from cassidy hutchinson, who at the former trump white house counsel s actions ahead of him and during the insurrection. in a statement, the committee writes its investigation has, quote, revealed evidence that mr. cipollone repeatedly raised legal and other concerns about president trump s activities on january 6th and in the days that preceded it. the panel notes cipollone did sit for an informal interview on april 13th. but goes on to say that, unfortunately, however, you ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle 20240604 06:02:00

hutchinson also testified abt cipollone s efforts january 6th to get the president to urge his supporters to end the violent. violence. she described him, pleading with her boss, former white house chief of staff mark meadows, to intervene. i remember pat saying to him, something to the effect of the rioters have got into the capital capitol mark. we need to get down now. and see the president now. and mark said, he doesn t want to do anything, pat. and pat said something to the effect of, and very clearly, had said this to mark something to the effect of, mark, something needs to be done, or people are going to die and the blood is going to be on your effing hands. i remember pat saying something to the effect of, mark, we need to do something more. they are literally calling for the vice president to be effing hung. and mark had responded, something to the effect of, you ....

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