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Baseball games. so, tim, wouldn't you agree that we shouldn't close the nation's zoos and aquariums, though there may occasionally be specific problems? >> i think zoos can serve a great purpose and there are many animals that work well in zoos. i think the question is, should all animals be in zoos? one important distinction i want to make is we're talking about zoos, and how they teach people with natural history. seaworld killer whale shows have fireworks, they have rock music, flarning lights. there's not much natural history talk about killer whales in those shows. so when you're asking t...

Nature. they're also happy palaces. families visit them again and again. last year in the u.s., they drew 175 million people. that's more than the combined attendance of 130 million for last year's nfl, nba, national hockey league and major league baseball games. so, tim, wouldn't you agree that we shouldn't close the nation's zoos and aquariums, though there may occasionally be specific problems? >> i think zoos can serve a great purpose and there are many animals that work well in zoos. i think the question is, should all animals be in zoos? one important distinction i want to make is we're ...