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Now to the backlash over "blackfish" the cnn film just recently aired several times here about what happens to some killer whales trained in captivity. this film profiles several former trainers including one who will not bring their children to see world shows, and it has many of you thinking, you know, should parents take their children to see these animal shows, take them to these parks? one of our cnni reporters, a faurkt of two boys, says no. >> it's not fair to these animals that we're kidnapped frm nature, training animals to jump and do things for treats. that's not natural. imprisonin...

Zimmerman and with greg stafford. now we're going to call a cease fire. is there anything that you two can actually agree on? >> i would say if killer whales are to be kept in captivity, i don't think they should be. they're creating better environments, more natural environments and building a lot more natural history into the programs would be a step in the right direction. i think as we learn more, trainers working with positive reinforcement are working every day to make their lives better and more stimulating. >> let me reinforce this. if you look at the best modern zoos, they have evolve...

Do they do tricks for food in nature? this is not about nature. it's about torturing animals to make them do tricks for you. >> there's so many things in your statement that we could take an hour. we are the advocates for these animals. we are the ones that have relationships based on positive reenforcement. so we know these animals better than anyone else. we know how they're doing each day. now, some of the things you mentioned, when you and i were kids, people were using killer whales for target practice. no one cared about where their tuna fish came from. never mind the fact that tens of t...

They have these complex family structures, which this whole process disrupts. i want you to respond to this clip. they live in these big families, and they have life spans very similar to human life spans. that females can live to about 100, maybe more. males to about 50 or 60. but the adult offspring never leave their mother's side. >> so before we go to break, it would be great to just get quickly from you, why is snatching these animals away from their parents and their moms in particular a great thing? >> first of all, all the killer whales in human care the vast majority of them have been...

They have these complex family structures, which this whole process disrupts. i want you to respond to this clip. they live in these big families, and they have life spans very similar to human life spans. that females can live to about 100, maybe more. males to about 50 or 60. but the adult offspring never leave their mother's side. >> so before we go to break, it would be great to just get quickly from you, why is snatching these animals away from their parents and their moms in particular a great thing? >> first of all, all the killer whales in human care the vast majority of them have been...