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Against donald trump is really about the soul of america. >> i would just say we are fundamentally different. >> and joining me now is the reverend al sharpton founder and president of the national network. i want to play a clip from your joe biden network which is where you got to the point of it whether he is going to run and what would make them are un. >> they have now said it's voter fraud, they have said that foreigners were voting, they've said that -- >> it's a lie. >> -- all of that -- >> it's a flat lie. the assertion the president made from the beginning is a flat lie. every study, ...

>> reporter: and there is manafort's former partner roger stone, also a trump ally. late in the election, stone correctly predicted a dump of hacked information damaging to the democrats. it came from julian assange's wikileaks, and since assange has ties to the russians, critics suggested stone must too. stone called it a flat lie. roger stone, paul manafort, and donald trump were working for the rugs? please. it's tedious and no evidence in the possession of our vaunted intelligence agencies proves this. and indeed there may be nothing to find. that is certainly a possibility. with all of th...

Breaking out between the drudge report's matt drudge and the white house. and the fight is over obamacare. drudge taking to twitter to make that announce. just paid the obamacare penalty for not getting covered. i'm calling it a liberty tax. white house representative firing back tweeting flat lie? no fee for previous years. scary how much influence he once had. what's really going on here. joining us our political panel, the hill's a.b. stoddard. political director rick klein. wow, a nice twitter fight. >> if you are going to pick a fight, be right. actually matt drudge points out in fact bec...

Well, matt drudge, you know him as the creator of the drudge report online. he's decided to opt out of obamacare. yesterday he posted a tweet saying -- here's what he said. he opted out of obamacare and he decided that he would pay the opt-out penalty, which he's calling a liberty tax. well, he was immediately slammed by the white house and others for what they called lies about this. >> they say that, you know, it's a 2014 tax so you're not going to be paying that until next year. there is a difference, however, though, if you have a business person. if you're paying a small business tax, all...

Running this ad because it might resonate among people who have some sort of enemies. >> can i say, reasonable people can disagree about the welfare waiver thing. you can say well, they are weakening work requirements and so you could kind of get that through customs as a legitimate ad because secretary sebelius did issue this waiver memo. fine. but the ad says and they just send them a check. that's a flat lie. that lie is intended to raise these racial issues. so you have to draw the line at the lie and anybody looks closely at this ad knows that that line in particular is flatly untrue. >> ...