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Over at the white house, the president running out of patience. jen psaki take to set the microphone very soon, we believe, with new reporting out now that the administration says that it is time for budget talks to wrap up. why one senator this afternoon is making that more complicated. also this hour, what texas is telling an appeals court today about the state's near total ban on abortion and the deposition donald trump is now being ordered to give next week. one of those afternoons where we're ripping up the rundown. i'm hallie jackson reporting from nbc headquarters in new york. and i'm...

Senator, max baukus of montana. senator, what specifically are you looking for the senate to do to defend democracy? >> this letter is basically a wake up call, it's a spine stiffener, it's a reminder that senators who ran for office and got elected took an oath of office to support the constitution of the united states. the rule of law. independent judiciary. that's what they are supposed to do, not have an obligation to their president or democratic party or republican party. we're in a very difficult time, i think, in american history and in flexion point, anyway, are we as a country going ...

On this issue. so what now? there is no doubt this moment feels different. but does that mean we've hit an in flexion point on the gun debate. we're going to kick things off and first jump to cpac and host of kasie dc is at cpac where we heard from the nra chief who spoke for the first time since last week's shooting. so this was not about looking for any middle ground, was it? >> reporter: not at all, chuck. this was i think sending a very strong public message and quite frankly this is where the nra has been on gun policy questions in the last five to ten years. it has been an adjustment sin...

>> richard, this is something that was in the new york timestory that i thought was interesting, i will read it. the fact of the leaking is almost the most significant -- this is politico. the fact of the leaking is almost the most significant that we've reached an in flexion point where people at the center of things feel the need to redeem themselves at the expense of the president. someone who worked in the white house, what do you make of that? >> i don't know who was leaking. a lot of people are leaking in white house because president trump throws his own people under the bus with regula...

The president has been very clear on what he wants. democrats have been very clear at least on this point they're not ready to aqueous too. democrats say it's entirely contingent on daca deal. and right now heading into a bipartisan meeting tomorrow democrats and republicans say things simply aren't in a good place. >> thanks very much. let's get back to congressman kinzinger. can you overt a government shutdown? i think so. we came up to christmas and we passed the cr, i think this is going to be the flexion point where we get some things done or we don't. look, i may be one of the younger gu...