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Selecting paul ryan, it's reaffirmed his conservative credentials so i'm not sure the flip-flopper charge will stand. >> does that charge -- assuming all politicians are flip-floppers. it doesn't even resonate anymore? >> i think it's, to quote, we're defining deviants down. we're defining politics down. accepting flip-flopping is body politics and normal. it's sad commentary and one of the things this campaign -- i don't think anybody's going to pretend is elevates the discourse. over time, governor romney, if he wins, has a chance to show he meant what he said and implements a lot of what he...

Next fall will determine a lot more than that squabble that went on there. >> but at the same time, 20 million people have watched these debates already. it's an extraordinary number. and i think that people are so intensely focused, precisely for the reasons that jack and harold have been talking about. the income disparities, and the suffering, the economic pain that people are feeling. and they're looking for leadership. and the question then becomes, which of these republicans in that kind of squabbling match are showing that kind of leadership. >> i think the debates have been consequenti...

One is the flip-flopper charge. the second that he's the male version of the step ford wives. and he hasn't really solved either of those two problems. >> there was this week caught our attention. we'll put it on the screen here. it's still not in love. and it's about mitt romney's search for love on the right, among conservatives. so herman cain, a lot of talk about the economy and taxes, and of course, jack welch, we rely on you principally for insightful commentary on twitter. and this is what you wrote after herman cain was on "meet the press," and thank god you were watching. you wrote, w...

Shown what we've got here. it's not a primary process. the primary process you have several plausible candidates, and they go after each other. we don't have that. we have one plausible candidate and a bunch of other guys who are prepping him for the obama onslaught. so basically they attack him. we thought perry was plausible. so far turned out not to be. so they're attacking him, getting him ready for what obama is going to unleash on him. and so i'm grading it on how well he is doing it, and i give him like a b-minus. there are two things he has to really get ready for. one is the flip-flop...