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Or for an exhibit in my presidential library, and you can have that conversation as long as the law is complied with. >> cnn has also reported that some trump white house documents were ripped up, thrown away, others flushed down toilets. does even a short informal note to an aide have to be preserved? >> little posties, you have a hand written note to somebody. you're writing on a note card at a national security meeting. these belong to the american public. when donald trump took the oath of office, he agreed to this. >> and there's a special process for handling classified presidential docu...

House chief of staff mark meadows actually burned documents in his fire praise plays. >> sure. >> what does your committee know about this very st. louis allegation that you raised? >> not as much as we would like to know. but that is testimony that we've received. you know, looking at the evidence that is no longer with us, i mean the secret service texts, they were -- secret service was told to keep them. and 11 days later, they erased them. now we've learned that the brass at the pentagon, the acting members, they also erased their texts. and of course we know from other reporting about the...

Concern also that the inspector general of the selective service found out about these erase sure s and sat on them for a year. we had been led to believe they were collaborating with us. and as soon as we issued subpoenas, hundreds of thousands of documents started rolling in. so that's of concern as well. and then of course the inspector general ordered the secret service to stop their forensic analysis of the phones that could give us the capacity potentially to get the lost text messages. put all together, it's not a good look. obviously, coincidences can occur, but it sure seems like a lo...

Believed that these voting machines needed to be seized to be protected so they could prove fraud. these people are true believers and i have to give credit to my colleagues emma brown and john swain who did the heavy lifting on this pretty bonkers story. >> giuliani did go to law school, right? he did actually -- >> he was a lawyer at one point, a functioning mayor. willie geist, jump in. >> peter baker, we are just getting in the last few minutes as this conversation goes on an excerpt from maggie haberman, your colleague usa new book. it is not coming out in the fall but it gets to this. i ...

Be a black box, this is a very small part that will be added on to the black box. >> fascinating. thank you. >> keep working on the names. >> i know. do you have one? >> flush gate. it is like still so-so, though. >> i think it changes the nature of this discussion about the document destruction that we knew about, the classified information that we knew about, it now raises it because of an action that, to me, requires some level of -- >> there is no earthly reason for him to be flushing documents down the toilet. there are a different of ways to handle documents. that's not one of them. >> i...