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Encircled, it gets more difficult, it is not impossible, but how are you actually -- as an ally of ukraine supplying them what they need in a way that they can use it and actually push back the russian advance? >> we have to do a lot more than just provide them arms. what we have to do -- we need to get some way to get them to influence deeper into where -- how the russians are coming at them. they have to be able to strike this convoy, they have to be able to have an -- i would -- i wanted to put, like, no fly zone, an air cap, an air cap that can give them some protection of the strikes that...

Assistant secretary of defense at the pentagon. nice to see you again. somewhat different capacity. what was your message to congress this week? >> well, i want to be clear the united states needs to arrest russian advances into ukraine and kiev. no fly zone is getting a lot of attention. what is a practical and important step the administration needs to take is put together covert operations program not only to disseminate intelligence but to take care of operations that could sabotage the advancement of the russian forces and more importantly perhaps to give a sustained logistical support to...

Was a threat before invasion started. now we are telling the world he is not end only on ukraine, his intention is nato, western order of the world that exists since world war ii and why if you give up ukraine right now, not providing no fly zone, then there won't be any ukrainians standing anymore. >> bill: we'll talk to a woman taking shelter in her basement. william la jeunesse can fill us in on the american-made missiles arriving on the battlefield and western ukraine, mike tobin begins this hour. hello. >> mike, if you can hear me. if you can hear me it's bill hemmer in new york and we're...

We'll see what more comes as the foreign secretary says this is the first sanctions against belarus, organizations and individuals in the role the country is playing in the invasion of ukraine. >> john: if you partner with russia, you'll experience the same sanctions they are, figure heads in the military. a lot of talk and came again from zelensky in the new statements from him, maria was mentioning it, why isn't the united states, european union implementing a no fly zone in ukraine. and if it was some country that was not working with nuclear weapons, you could have the no fly zone, take ou...

It doesn't apply. but that's what people want. they want to no fly zone. they want to see harder sanctions. they want to see more from the west. they want bank transfers not to go through. they won anything from the west to not stop this advance. i heard them say if we are fading here, we're night -- we have heard that in the past and former conflicts, the idea that the ideology or that vladimir putin presents will spread further and further as this conflict goes on. >> people have been watching this on tv in the past few weeks they become familiar with some of this geographically. less with l...