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Killings from putin a no fly zone will arrange that, will help it, will defend it. not only us, but also everyone in the world. because then there will be less refugees. we could protect our security and freedom more, and we could stop putin. i understand this is not easy to have no fly zone, to make that decision, but it's very much needed and of course we understand that it would really be the tool that could save lives, and we are very honest about it. >> yep. lisa yasko, a very honest conversation. thank you so much, thoughts are with you, and please stay safe, and i hope to speak with you...

Ukrainian capital. so the fact we have sirens going off, missile strikes targeting the city, small arms fire in the distance, the city will have to brace for days of fighting in what could be very bloody urban warfare. sandra, john. >> john: one of the things we keep hearing from ukrainian officials they want the imposition of a no fly zone there over the entire nation to prevent russia from doing exactly what it's doing. but that is something that can only be carried out by nato and assume the chances of that are nil. >> and look, with a no fly zone you would have to expect russia will violat...

Fraction of ukrainian parliament. that's why we are doing this public speeches and no fly zone over ukraine and we hope that we can a result. >> you know, maria, in a different situation, if russia did not have nuclear weapons, i think you would see a no fly zone, also not see the column 40 miles long sitting there north of kyiv, it would have been destroyed long ago but the nuclear calculation makes things as you know extraordinarily different. at least for the moment no fly zone. god speed to you, we hope you stay safe. thank you for joining us. >> thank you very much. >> sandra: john, an up...

Perhaps people who are younger, and who don't remember the cold war, cannot imagine. but it is literally beyond the nation. but as you said, this war would not be televised because none of us would be here, after the opening days of this war. it would be covered on a scale that is just unthinkable. and so, nuclear powers cannot get into wars with other nuclear powers, full stop. it cannot happen. >> david, it seems to me that president zelenskyy's repeated request for the no fly zone makes perfect sense. and i actually think it is a useful request, because it helps press, not just the united s...

They're sending, not only, wrong messages, but they are sending a war. not only to my country, but they are threatening the whole democratic world. >> your request for more military assistance. there's been a number of ukrainian officials who have asked, including your president, for a no fly zone. most people who are nato experience have said they're not going to do that. they can't get involved in the idea of nato jets getting into a fight with russian jets over ukraine and triggering a yet bigger war. so, one is the next best thing? if you don't get a no fly zone? >> i think it can be a hum...