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His military and those who support putin. i want to be very clear about this. this is the crimes against humanity, and putin isa warcriminal. as he is losing the ground in ukraine, absolutely, he wants to apply the same tactics as he did in grozny and in aleppo, as you already mentioned. so the only answer we have is a strong resilience and unity of the western world and ukraine. shipment and delivery of lethal weapon to ukraine. no fly zone if it's possible. supply of fighterjets to ukraine and ramp up sanctions against russia every single day. russian people have to feel the pain. russian ec...

Advanced aircraft from us. if for instance the polish government, a nato member wants to send fighter jets, does that get a green light from the u.s. or are you afraid that will escalate tensions? >> no, that gets a green light. >> reporter: but the administration and many lawmakers say a no-fly zone over ukraine is still a step too far. >> no fly zone, if people understood what it means, it means world war iii, it means starting world war iii. >> reporter: but an issue that is gaining steam on capitol hill: >> no russian oil. >> reporter: a ban on russian energy imports into the u.s.. >> i th...

Skies, the no fly zone over ukraine. what can parliament, just a sign that ukraine is not dictated like putin was dreaming of and we are absolutely ready to fight again and again and again. >> sandra: our thoughts are with you and the people as you are fighting back. thank you. john. >> john: joining me in washington is ambassador kurt volker, special representative for ukraine. we keep hearing this drum beat from the ukraine members of parliament and zelenskyy, no fly zone, no fly zone, no fly zone. the white house and others have said no way, it could ignite world war iii. the piece you have...

Has been doubling down, saying any effort would be tantamount to participating in the armed conflict. let's face it here, alex, there's no way for nato forces to impose a no fly zone on ukrainian airspace without coming head-to-head with actual russian military. that would mean, you know, essentially shooting down russian planes. that's a step too far for the nato alliance and for the united states. and zelenskyy renewed that call again in that phone call, in that video chat with those 300 lawmakers this morning for the united states. so, you know, really desperate efforts to get that one wish...

Border and returning to the fight, some of them with no military experience, some civilians not part of this military and that is who is fighting this war. not wanting to start a wider conflict, the reality is without a new fly zone, you have say zil -- civilians fighting against the russian army and civilians will pay the heaviest price. >> i want to ask and get clear for the viewers, how far is this convey from the capitol. >> reporter: it's still 40 kilometers from kyiv. it's on the other side of the country from where i am. that's so unnerving for people that fled the violence in the east ...