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Not appoint him as national security advisor, there probably at some point would have been an investigative process that involved michael flynn and might just have us where we are tonight. >> i think that's absolutely right. the idea that you can have as an american citizen phone calls with the russian ambassador and not expect those phone calls to be subject to some kind of surveillance in washington is a little bit iffy. we know that those are the sorts of calls that at least there's intelligence about the content of. so that forces us to consider the question of what did flynn know or what ...

Not appoint him as national security advisor, there probably at some point would have been an investigative process that involved michael flynn and might just have us where we are tonight. >> i think that's absolutely right. the idea that you can have as an american citizen phone calls with the russian ambassador and not expect those phone calls to be subject to some kind of surveillance in washington is a little bit iffy. we know that those are the sorts of calls that at least there's intelligence about the content of. so that forces us to consider the question of what did flynn know or what ...

>> shepard: we know he has a story to tell. his lawyer said that he has a story to tell. he just needs to tell it. >> he would be able to need to tell a story that would involve president trump. >> shepard: why? >> because bob mueller is interested in what the president knew and when he knew it about contacts with the russians. there were 30 contacts between campaign people and the russians -- >> shepard: by the way, those were previously undisclosed. asked and answered. no, we didn't do it. now we know of 30. >> so what did general flynn know, what did he know it and what did attorney general...