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The end of the tunnel. so vaccination for our entire team was we believed that light at the end of the tunnel. we made that decision collectively. >> putting something into somebody's body against their will as a condition of employment is a slippery slope and it's one i'm afraid i don't want to see the nursing home industry, assisted living industry or employee numbers go down. >> it so, two different opinions there, right? hearing from lynn there for instance, she said it's not necessarily a requirement you have to get vaccined to work here. there are exceptions f. you have a medical exempti...

Chairman chaffetz is not necessarily one who is going to take that position that he did today saying that he saw nothing, kind of taking a swing at general flynn there. i will say i still would say, let's reserve judgment. general flynn, i worked with him. he had a distinguished career in the military. three-star general, headed a defense intelligence agency. he's a bright man. i would like to see what's in the paper. let's let the string be pulled. let's withhold judgment. until all the facts are in. >> that's fair enough. but dan pfeiffer, let me ask you. you saw sean spicer, the way they're...

That. let's bring in my panel. we have dan fifer, amy walter and david urban. david, let me start with you. the man who won pennsylvania for president trump. you are not a member of the white house. you don't have to defend anything you don't want to. a few weeks ago people were wondering why michael flynn wanted immunity. this might be why he wanted immunity. >> i think it's a good chance there, jake. i would say that chairman chaffetz is not necessarily one who is going to take that position that he did today saying that he saw nothing, kind of taking a swing at general flynn there. i will s...