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Horace got involved, they did polling -- dick morris got involved, they did polling, they did focus grouping. he triangulated. he mentioned the era of big government is over end of welfare as we know it. together with the they led us on a path to a balanced budget. fiscal sanity, not record debt. >> greta: when health care failed, now health care has gone the democratic way at least the way president obama wants it. he's not going to be the triangulating or any of that >> sean: i don't that i is in him. >> greta: tell me if we are having this discussion a year from now, past the midterm electi...

Horace got involved, they did polling -- dick morris got involved, they did polling, they did focus grouping. he triangulated. he mentioned the era of big government is over end of welfare as we know it. together with the they led us on a path to a balanced budget. fiscal sanity, not record debt. >> greta: when health care failed, now health care has gone the democratic way at least the way president obama wants it. he's not going to be the triangulating or any of that >> sean: i don't that i is in him. >> greta: tell me if we are having this discussion a year from now, past the midterm electi...

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Interpretation. >> let's move on to another interpretation. >> here's what i know. i know that everybody, democrat and republican, campaign and noncampaign, has been focus grouping like crazy among undecided, working class white women. >> right. >> especially in places like ohio. but -- in every swing state, and what i'm told is that the republicans found, to their surprise, over recent weeks, that the welfare ad really worked with those women. now, they were surprised, because women don't, as often, respond on the welfare issue, but at a time when everybody's strapped, when everybody's strugg...