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Agents on the ground, talk to the people dealing with this problem every day and that is where you will get the true rhetoric. rob: what some say is the gimmick, everybody claiming asylum at this point, numbers through the roof, up a tremendous percentage. you can claim asylum even if you have a wall from coast-to-coast, you can get onto us ground on the other side of the wall and claim asylum. the question becomes does a barrier prevent that and should the money be spent on places to house asylum-seekers and judges rather than a barrier itself? >> it is a multi fold problem. we need to deal w...

Security elaine duke telling me that you've got to be responsible yourself and also find a way to protect those who want to protect you. the energy responses, emergency responders. they were dealing with that, doesn't this next fella know what you make a former fema director there around the time of katrina michael brown. good to have you back. >> good to see you, neil. >> neil: i don't know, a warning for president trump, but a reminder, don't repeat the ills of katrina or don't let this be your katrina. what did you mean? >> well, it's kind of a two fold problem. if you look at the center fo...

Neil: absolutely right -- reason your leadership for not delivering more goods? >> it is a two fold problem, democrats -- of resistance no matter what donald trump does a won't pick up one finger to help him and we have a republican party that has got to get it together so this president can continue to grow the economy. we have to get healthcare done, tax reform done in the infrastructure plan across the border line and see this economy explode and congress has to do it and democrats have to take that blame as well. neil: you mentioned healthcare and the tax-cut and that is the way it has got...

Reporting, i apologize new york times. >> louis gossset won for officer and a gentleman and he deserved it. he's now in a movie and joins us. louis gossset, jr., great to have you with us. it's been a burning issue as hollywood has been abuzz about the oscars and there does seem to be an unusually sort of white version of the oscars. is it intentional, louis or just that so many african-american actors are not given the kind of roles that, that give them the opportunity to win? what is going on? >> oh, boy, i think there's just a two fold problem. i think there's little backlash, psychological...

Reporting, i apologize new york times. >> louis gossset won for officer and a gentleman and he deserved it. he's now in a movie and joins us. louis gossset, jr., great to have you with us. it's been a burning issue as hollywood has been abuzz about the oscars and there does seem to be an unusually sort of white version of the oscars. is it intentional, louis or just that so many african-american actors are not given the kind of roles that, that give them the opportunity to win? what is going on? >> oh, boy, i think there's just a two fold problem. i think there's little backlash, psychological...