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Program has been phenomenal if you think where it has come from for the last 30 years. it's a beautiful sight. it reminds us what people can do when they have challenges. all the people that supported the shuttle over the years, thousands of people that made this possible really put a lot into this program. it's a real, you know indication of american ingenuity if you will and it's, it is bittersweet. beautiful to see this amazing thing that we have in the space shuttles but of course it's sad that the follow-on program has been canceled and delayed, you know, to get on to do exploration that ...

>> it's obviously really nice that, for example, discovery went into the smithsonian last week. i was there for that event. we now have enterprise going into new york. a lot of people are getting to see the shuttles. the problem we have is that we were going to retire the shuttles, and we had a replacement program, which was the constellation program to go on to the moon and mars and astroids and beyond. and unfortunately the administration canceled the follow-on program. when i met with people at the smithsonian last week they were excited to see a shuttle but they were pretty distressed that...