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January 3rd when democrats take control of the house. >> shannon: senior capitol hill producer chad pergram is with us now. with that as a backdrop, tell us what is going on and whether or not this shutdown is a fool's errand. >> here's the issue. the wall has been the problem since they dealt with the short shutdown this winter. it has been a flash point all year long. vice president mike pence was here most of the day, and he met this evening with the chair of the senate appropriations committee, richard shelby appeared i will tell you a couple things that shall be talked about when he came ...

Republicans if awakened from a long dream, sort of a while you were sleeping dream and understood yesterday that donald trump actually -- his foreign policy at least is bad for america's long-term national interests. >> i think mcconnell's statement is fascinating. what mattis state in his statement is trump has a mature, fully formed foreign policy opinion with which he disagrees and that he can no longer count nance that is contrary to mattis' understanding. calling on trump to hire another mattis who does not share trump's views seems to me to be a fool's errand. trump has decided for whate...

Substance and to good journalism, i think we got something to be happy about. >> it was important to make the point that what mattered was, what kind of reporter are you? it took the christine craft incident, i think, to bring that conversation out into the open. >> this coming sunday, a new television network opens for business. cnn. cable news network. you are throwing all the dice on this one. >> why not? nothing ventured, nothing gained. feint heart ne'er, fair lady. >> well, on that original point, mr. turner, thank you very much, indeed. >> i wanted to see what was going on in the world....

Job. i don't think folks were out there knocking on the door saying, hey, consider me your backup plan, no one thought he was going to turn it down. now the president has an opportunity to find someone who can do a couple things, number one, deal with these investigations, i think it would be good if they had a chief of staff who lived through some investigations before. i think the person has to be a realist, it's not all mai tais out here. they need to not be cynical. they need to understand it's a high honor to serve in the white house. >> you think there's going to be a line now scott? >> ...

2016 inspite of his unpopularity because it was a choice between him and another historically unpopular candidate. given the choice between generic republicans in 2018 and another democrat in 2020, you could see a different result. >> it's phe's been able to push boundaries with republicans on capitol hill who have been reluctant to confront the president even with the bomb she sle shells that have come out so far. they have been reluctant to talk about impeachment because they know it's a fool's errand. they wouldn't have the votes to remove the president any way. i think the president is hap...