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>> thank you. >> for more on the president and russia and the role congress has to play, i'm joined by hakeem jeffries. your reaction the president had another undisclezed and it appeared substantive conversation with vladimir putin? >> the more we learn, the more every single american should be concerned about the relationship bedon on the and russia and what may or may not have taken place during the 2016 campaign. what's clear to me is there was a triangular relationship, perhaps facilitated by roger stone, one of the president's best friends. there's greing evidence there was a conspiracy ...

Why was he lying about all of this? the whole thing is bizarre. he's committing crimes. >> because he's roger stone. that's what he's done all his life. >> but he lie fooz congress and can't produce witnesses for a living? >> look -- >> you would think he would be able to turn them off? they all lie about russia all the time. so whautsz tlr point? >> in roger stone's case, he's playing a role. he's been playing a role all his professional life. all you got to do is watch the netflix film and you see who this guy is and he relishes it and i think he is now, whether he's thought through this is ...

Hill? what do you know about where this is heading? are they are driving the policy? >> we've not heard much, actually. i have two briefings on it tomorrow. and remember the intelligence committee because republicans have not appointed members, we have had zero meetings since this term began and so year hopefully have better information tomorrow. but they have not reached out to provide, tell us hot their strategy is, if they are thinking of engaging militarily, what the rational is. so congress is in the dark so far in terms of what the administration has told us. >> should americans trust jo...

They were clearly trying to prove more than what was in the indictment. there's -- you know there's a lot of meat in that indictment, especially very damming evidence about his lives, the congress when he testified, particularly when he said he had no emails ortects relating to his efforts to learn about julian asauchg's emails. obviously not true and some of his thuggish texts to randy cred co, you're prepared to die, a rat a stoolie, all of that was deserving of indictment. but the goal they were looking for was to show he really was in communication with julian assange as he publicly said a...

Indictment and they weren't able to prove that. >> then there question bem cans. why was he lying about all of this? the whole thing is bizarre. he's committing crimes. >> because he's roger stone. that's what he's done all his life. >> but he lie fooz congress and can't produce witnesses for a living? >> look -- >> you would think he would be able to turn them off? they all lie about russia all the time. so whautsz tlr point? >> in roger stone's case, he's playing a role. he's been playing a role all his professional life. all you got to do is watch the netflix film and you see who this guy i...