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Why was he lying about all of this? the whole thing is bizarre. he's committing crimes. >> because he's roger stone. that's what he's done all his life. >> but he lie fooz congress and can't produce witnesses for a living? >> look -- >> you would think he would be able to turn them off? they all lie about russia all the time. so whautsz tlr point? >> in roger stone's case, he's playing a role. he's been playing a role all his professional life. all you got to do is watch the netflix film and you see who this guy is and he relishes it and i think he is now, whether he's thought through this is ...

Indictment and they weren't able to prove that. >> then there question bem cans. why was he lying about all of this? the whole thing is bizarre. he's committing crimes. >> because he's roger stone. that's what he's done all his life. >> but he lie fooz congress and can't produce witnesses for a living? >> look -- >> you would think he would be able to turn them off? they all lie about russia all the time. so whautsz tlr point? >> in roger stone's case, he's playing a role. he's been playing a role all his professional life. all you got to do is watch the netflix film and you see who this guy i...

Personal feuds, rather than national issues and you think are people going to work every day to do? what's tlr point? >> and this is a president who likes to see these arguments play out in public. he reads newspapers and likes to see the debate playing out. he likes to see the friction among his advisors and i think that's why so many of his aids and ofilgszs talk to reporters like me and appear on television to make their cases because it's a very public process. >> what a den of vipers. as a private citizen trump had a habit of calling reporters to it liver flattering news about himself but...