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More likely to vote in 20 when the 2020, if you are progressive and provide a true contrast. can you win. that can potentially help them. >> that brings us to arizona, mcsally running against two trump like candidates, she is walking a fine line. do you think she moves closer to the middle? arizona is a red state. president trump won there. >> look, martha mcsally is different than ron desantis. she has a much more moderate voting record. on the democratic side of the aisle, she has a mod cat record. so arizona is the complete opposite of florida. in arizona you have what we normally think is ...

That. hillary clinton was drawing huge african-american voters. yes, gillum goes after the democratic base the progressive base. he is someone that appeals to arkin american voters and young voters. someone that can do all three can with inin florida. >> florida may be different from georgia is a microcomes of the country. a decidedly purple state, goes back and forth. conventional wisdom has been after a primary you get back to the center to appeal to those independent voters. do you feel the case can be made he here, they will run up the base and their voters in their respective camps to win...