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As the sentence he would serve. from mueller's point of view the only thing left that he really wants is manafort's cooperation. so i would expect him to drive a pretty tough bargain here. he doesn't have to agree to let manafort plead. manafort can plead blind to all counts in the indictment if he wants to, he cannot force mueller to give him any kind of terms for that agreement. >> we'll see what he has in his pockets. thanks, joyce vance. with hurricane florence barrelling down on the carolinas, president trump is saying his administration did a great job on the hurricane in puerto rico. ...

Survivability right now, he may not be in a position to give pardons. >> manafort is facing a decade of prison time coming out of the trial held last month in virginia. he's going against a d.c. jury, which are known to be liberals, not big on d.c. big shots. not happy to see him coming. what does that tell you? >> i think this jury will do what we expect juries to do across the country and that's to leave their prejudices at the door and make a decision as the judge instructs him based on the evidence and the law. >> you're being clinical. >> mueller has great evidence. we saw how good that e...

He talks about maybe revoking other clearances. all about who was there, who he blames for the beginning of the russia meddling investigation. then he gets into bob mueller, james comey, another one of the people on that list, if you will, and connects it all. again, i want to get to the security clearance issue, but when you listen to the president on the issue of the special counsel, i've never heard him more plainly give a hint that i'm done, don't think i'm going to answer questions, mr. mueller. >> yeah, i think it's become pretty clear that the president and his lawyers want to force mue...

Several important factors, the political factor of the president being deposed before the mid-terms. the constitutional factor of the president setting a precedent for presidents to be deposed either voluntarily or by subpoena. if the president was subpoenaed, it would be appealed to the supreme court. then you have the personal liability of the president being deposed as an individual. so i think there are several factors that go into whether or not the president will actually voluntarily testify or force mueller's hand to subpoena. mueller promised us this would not be political. if that's t...

For a possible interview though they said preliminary efforts had not gone well due to the president's anger over the probe. it seems like the president is right, his lawyers don't want to voluntarily testify because it's obvious. the real news in the post piece are prepping for aubpoena from muler that would seek to compel trump testify in the investigation whicwould likely prompt a legal bat that will could be decided by the supreme court. joining me now is political analyst david zirin corn, washington bureau chief at mother jones and msnbc contribute ker betsy woodruff politics editor at "...