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Americans. we're a democracy. they're significant. and the thing is, i think what people don't understand always is that disinformation doesn't radicalize people. it's a gateway -- it's not a gateway drug. people are radicalized much more -- we saw this with isis when i was in the state department, much more by an em deem logical model, by people that they know already, by intimates. i mean, you know, were talking about the oath keep and these illegal militia groups. there's a reason why the people in there are brothers and cousins. they radicalize each other. the disinformation and the conspi...

In an effort to challenge the united states is a major, major boost to their capabilities in the sense that their strategic priorities are covered, which it was not during much of the cold war. it's at an important enhancement to their overall stature. we have to remember that during the cold war, the soviet union was fighting the cold war — or not fighting, but was in a state of cold war stand—off — against the united states and europe in one theatre but also against china in the other theatre. so now that the two countries have really struck up a strategic partnership, they really have...

Other one. i as a force multiplier for the other one-— as a force multiplier for the other one. i understand what ou're other one. i understand what you're saying- _ other one. i understand what you're saying. and _ other one. i understand what you're saying. and just i you're saying. and just briefly, eugene, please, what do you this means for ukraine? it is kind of stuck in the middle of these various alliances.— middle of these various alliances. , ., , alliances. yes, of course, it is stuck _ alliances. yes, of course, it is stuck in _ alliances. yes, of course, it is stuck in the _ al...

The country illegally and if they are you can process them. it's a great force multiplier. the 287g program goes way beyond that same were not gonna let ice in our jail or cooperate with ice at all. this president during that speech in arizona on immigration, he was right on the money. he's proven he was right on the money because everything he said he needed to fix that he's been fixing is working. border numbers are down over 65% not because congress did anything. >> i was gonna say, he has done that. what do you attribute that to. >> president trump and only president trump in the administr...

I think, significant _ i think, significant symbolically but also in practical terms. the fact that each country, china in the pacific and russia in europe, has its hands in an effort to challenge the united states is a major, major boost to their capabilities in the sense that there strategic priorities are covered. which it was not during much of the cold war. it is at an important enhancement to their overall stature. we have to remember that during the cold war, the soviet union was fighting the cold war—or not fighting, but was in a state of cold war stand—off — against the united s...