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That is what needs to happen next. we need to get credible independent forensics experts who are not just the i.t. department, somewhere in the bowels of the irs, who are doing what they were told to do. i didn't detect that lois lerner was upset about the loss of her e-mails and files. >> who knows what that means. all e-mails during the relevant times. okay, we can't get communications from lois to you from lois, why don't you produce them, white house, if there are any. why don't you produce them if there are any. why don't you, barack obama's election team. quick answer on this one, do you...

Too stormy, waves too high to see anything. >> thank you very much indeed. turn now to new developments in the investigation of the pilot and copilot of flight 370. pamela brown has this. pamela, a new "usa today" report out today quoting a senior malaysian investigator as saying that malaysian police believe that captain zaharie shah quote deliberately redirected the aircraft. your sources i believe are hearing something different. tell me what the latest is. >> reporter: well, piers, the officials i've spoken with with knowledge of the investigation are not ready to jump to any conclusions o...

That malaysian police believe that captain zaharie shah quote deliberately redirected the aircraft. your sources i believe are hearing something different. tell me what the latest is. >> reporter: well, piers, the officials i've spoken with with knowledge of the investigation are not ready to jump to any conclusions or make any leaps. simply they don't have the concrete evidence to back up that theory. the sources say that investigators haven't found a smoking gun in either of the pilots or copilots' backgrounds that would suggest a premeditated act. a source in malaysia tells cnn a search of ...

Drive of the captain's simulator and the pilot's laptops that british and u.s. forensics experts have been working to recover. erin? >> pamela, thank you very much. and i want to bring in our panel. richard quest, our aviation analyst miles o'brien, attorney arthur rosenberg and editor-in-chief of flying magazine, robert guyer. miles, search area smaller. the investigation a heck of a lot bigger. are we ever going to know where the plane went down? >> i still say we don't know where the haystack is. we don't know enough about the altitude, the speed and for that matter the direction of the air...

Off the coast of australia, nothing so far. a huge attention to what happened in the cockpit. could some clues be buried deep in it's memory. that is something the fbi is trying to find out. >> we know the pilot had deleted some of the data from the system or there was data deleted from the system. we don't know it was the pilot. like your old male-mails and ot computer files. our pamela brown is in washing wi washington with details. pam, why don't we start with you and give us an idea of what investigators are looking for in this data on the hard drive. >> bottom line, the fbi is throwing a ...