But is everybody on the same board -- everybody on board now with the fact that these are manmade earthquakes and we can essentially start and stop them by whether or not we do this kind of injection behavior? >> yes, well, i haven't done any polling on it, but most of the technical community agrees that yes indeed. we took a position in april as the oklahoma geological survey a couple of months before i came on board and said yes indeed, there is a connection between the injection of water from oil and gas operations. and it's not actually frack water. it's naturally occurring water that occu...