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This needn't have come to this place. i will say two years ago there were lots of groups in the fight that were secular is not the right word, but that were liberal, should we say, and that were not linked to al qaeda. but those groups were essentially pushed out of the night. al qaeda-connected groups were the only ones getting active outside help at the time and they took to -- they also, of course, many of them are experienced fighters from other conflicts so they were taking the sort of forward position. they led the fight. >> i understand. >> and eventually they came to dominate it. right...

Other issues in my life, but on this one, i had not contemplated changing my position. >> senator portman says it is in line with his beliefs, with his catholic beliefs. he obviously has changed his position because his son said that he was gay, told his father that. i know your wife, your daughter, megan, support same-sex marriage, publicly made statements about t do you think if a member of your family was gay and told you that, that might influence you? >> i don't think so but i would like to point out that my daughter's opinions i respect. we have discussions about the issue. and she makes...

This one, i had not contemplated changing my position. >> senator portman says it is in line with his beliefs, with his catholic beliefs. he obviously has changed his position because his son said that he was gay, told his father that. i know your wife, your daughter, megan, support same-sex marriage, publicly made statements about t do you think if a member of your family was gay and told you that, that might influence you? >> i don't think so but i would like to point out that my daughter's opinions i respect. we have discussions about the issue. and she makes strong arguments and i think we...

Country and by the way, i have admired your forward position and stand on this issue. >> well, thanks. i -- let's talk about syria. i want to play for you -- our viewers something that you said yesterday about it. >> more than 1 million refugees have fled their country at a rate of 8,000 people each day as of last month and 2.5 million people have been displaced within their country. only the general siocide of rwa the iraq war have driven more people to refugee status over a similar period of time. >> those are some of the deadliest conflicts in recent history. do you think syria has reached ...

Along the mediterranean for obvious reason, most of it to the south is just desert. i've been reading. there is a military debate about what the costs and risks of a no-fly zone might be and somebody has come up with the notion of a standoff no-fly zone where we basically enforce this from the mediterranean. we use ships and missiles to say we can shoot down your planes if they go above 5,000 feet from offshore. does that sufficiently limit our risk to make it more viable. >> certainly limits it, that's right. you don't are to put manned aircraft on top of libya over these very specific spaces...