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>> i hope mike is gonna do the right thing, i hope so i hope so. if mike pence does the right thing, we win the election >> mike pence gets another chance to do the right thing >> this is big, we have just learned and are able to confirm, mike pence testified before th grand jury today >> tonight, what we know about the former vice president' participation and the criminal investigation of his forme boss then, the explosive scen inside a new york courtroom, where e. jean carroll's rape allegation faced cross-examination from donal trump's lawyer >> a eventually, she just sort of lost...

Intensity in that courtroom. >> a heavy day absolutely >> how does th cross-examination start of >> cross-examination started off this morning, chris, it wa such a long day, i'm always at a loss to remember exactly how we started off with her. what i will say, he was a lo gentler than i thought he wa going to be, tacopina is a person known for his bluster definitely, commandeer's a courtroom. for himself, he was restrained yet, at the same point, he couldn't help himself. the threat of hi cross-examination today, i addition to pointing to he various motives, was the cod wouldn't should a defen...

Conference was about with the president. but he did seem even more above and beyond himself than usual yesterday. >> amy, when it comes to -- just take the jeff sessions part of it. did it surprise you that he fired jeff sessions the morning after the midterms? that seems to add to this. >> well, we knew he was going to fire him. you had to be living under a rock to think that jeff sessions was going to stay. he has said after the midterms. >> absolutely. >> was i surprised it happened the morning after? yes. but what i will say is that president trump is a man of action. when he decides he's ...

And he said a lot of things that turned out to be untrue. the reality is that as a prosecutor, i was told that many times, can you give the man a break either by the lawyers or the relatives or friends, and you take it into consideration, but that can doesn't determine not going forward wit. >> so just to be clear. last month giuliani said quote, what he, president trump, said to him, james comey, can you give the guy, michael flynn a break. and today, the story is that the two never even talked about flynn. the cnn white house correspondent boris sanchez is there where the president is spendi...

>> and to the doctor's point, that if you start to do the psychological examinations every six months, the -- is it worth it is basically asking it. yes sh yes, this particular incident, and horrific, and dreadful, but the reliability of the psychological examination, and coupled with the sheer amount of effort, and the extent and the bureaucracy that is going to go through and the interpretation of that. >> and yes, you said that there is not a drug or the pill for the sociopath. >> exactly. >> and most of the people who have these issues, they hide it very well, and most people have no idea....