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Effort to break out with the kind of liberal base of the party, historically, a pretty good chunk of the iowa caucus electorate. the challenge is there's so many candidates in the race sliced in that same part of the pie, it can get sliced thinly. that's the challenge forward wren and sanders, they're both in the race and targeting very similar voters, talking about big structural change, no half measures, no middle ground. that could lead somebody else to try to take more of the moderation out of the party if at some point biden does come do down, and his numbers are fallen already. >> rachel...

Couch to get to know them. they're really getting to know these candidates. what we're seeing i think is iowa voters starting to decide who they're preferring, who they like, who they're hearing from. it's a very fluid race. i think we also learned that from this recent poll. a drop of nine and six points for biden and bernie, a rise forward wren and buttigieg. they've been spending time in the state, putting forward plans and having substantive discussions. so i think iowa is going to be important, vital and i think we'll see more movement in this race. it was quite a telling poll in my view....