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Concerning. >> frankly, we just don't know what the promise was. we don't even begin to know the nature of that promise. but what we do know, andy, is that the intelligence community inspector general, a trump appointee, found it to be credible and a matter of urgent concern. so what does that tell you? >> it tells you that this is not a kind of -- this is not considered by the intelligence community inspector general or the acting dni for that matter, is not considered to be a frivolous matter or something that was overblown or overreported. the intelligence community inspector general, as yo...

Forwarding it to david samson, saying general, as in former attorney general, can i call you on this now? right there, i have a question. what was that phone call? >> they're on a war footing. they always are in team christie. so the notion you would have one man, particularly samson at the top, who's, you know, sort of stroking his chin and wondering, again, credulity. >> that's key. one of the things you get from this, a huge bulk of this has to do with what a freak-out, a flipout was happening in ft. lee and how much it was blowing up through ft. lee politics and through new jersey politics...