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Is doing here does fold into his fox strategy. he can do something the wrong way and he will get an echo from fox and that he will magnify his message that way and go around the other lawmakers. he knows he has them to attack whoever goes against him. are you worried about that? that if mike shields comes out against the president that you have to worry about getting your butt whopped all night? >> no, i work for cnn. the base of the party, the grass roots wants something to be done and the brand of the president, when he ran for office he said i'm different. if you want another politician, yo...

Hearing own republicans saying why didn't you go into the can want of defense budget and take money from there which would be in their eyes within his power. no declaration of emergency has been used for something like this. ever. there are legal -- >> there have been 60 of them. including national security. >> nothing like this. it's about seizing assets from people. and give it back. you make an interesting angle on it. another consideration of mine. u try to keep to a minimum talking about my brothers and sisters. doing the job. it comes off catty. i'm not looking for those fights. what the...

President? he's the one that had sex with a four-month-old son at home wi without a condom. >> after he got off the show he called tucker's show trash tv. why did he show up there in the first place? michael avenatti is here to tell us why. michael, many democrats say no to fox's interview requests. many 2020 hopefuls. why did you say yes? >> well, brian, if you're going to be a fighter and fight for the future of this country and lead the democratic party, then you can't be ducking fights. and, frankly, sometimes you have to go into the belly of the beast, as they say, and take on some of the...

First debate, the moderators there, who did a great job. what they decided to do was led the debate with a tough question for each of them about eligibility. i just said this is what this person said on this issue or this is what this person said about you. but i think the fox strategy for the first debate makes a lot of sense for this debate because the candidates are not as likely to mix it it up. it's good to have anderson go at them a little. >> jake tapper, thank you so much. tune in to jake in 15 minutes. thank you so much. coming up next, we're in vegas. let's talk o to a bookie. one ...

But this has become a real campaign with the right wing against oprah, eric. and they are like just jumping all over her. the fox strategy that you talk about? >> what did she do wrong? she talked about race. that's the starting point for all these people. you don't talk about t even when she couched it saying things have gotten better. the fact that she brings up any criticism whatsoever. she was saying barack obama has been disrespected the way no other president has. and that, that's the fox strategy right there. >> let me show you what she said. oprah was asked if it's crossed her mind if ...