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To a certain issue, more people learn about the subject and it can really push a cause very, very far. any small confinement or boredom that i would have experienced or any fellow protester would experience in jail pales in comparison to the boredom and small captivity areas of whales such as tilikum and baby shamu. >> emily, i'm listening to your daughter and i am reminding myself that i am speaking to a 12-year-old. how proud of you. you are an activist yourself? >> i'm very proud of her. she is both compassionate and intelegent and she wants to help animals. >> here's the book. this is the ...

It's not a winnable war. i never liked either war. as it turned out they didn't work out. we have to face the facts. are we going to spend our national -- go ahead. >> i would agree with bob. the approximate if the administration was honest and they took bob's point of view that afghanistan was not a state that could defend itself, it's all to the good. they wasted a year with the phony review as soon as obama came into office. nothing was known about that and he put more troops in harm's way and said we are leaving at the same time. this was purely po lit cal. >> perspective here as well. thi...

There is always a conflict. the first chief in iraq was pulled out because he sent in an assessment back to washington that there is going to be an insurrection that is going to get bad in the military. he said no, things are fine. he pulled the guy out and he quit the cia. the inteligence wars in the community go on all the time and we are seeing it rose to the white house. >> do you agree with buck that the book is as damaging as he portrays against the administration? >> i think it's damaging, but i don't like the idea of cabinet minsters in the white house going after and revealing things ...

Also much grumbling about the numerical limits he placed on troops. i believe obama was right in each of these decisions." that's from the book. that's secretary gates' published opinion on these matters. were these substantial rich discussions? absolutely. because the policy was so important. it was much reported on at the time that there were differing views about how we should move forward with our policy towards afghanistan and pakistan. some of the disagreements is not different from what we have seen in the past. >> these are explosive statements he has made about the president. this is ...

Particular. a lot of people said it's a slap on the wrist. jpmorgan had $20 billion in fines and settlements over the past year. 2012 the profit is about $21 billion. shareholders are pretty furious because this bank -- that's unheard of to have that much paid out. many say it's not enough and they would like to see someone in handcuffs. $20 billion is not insignificant. we will see you tomorrow morning and 5:00 on early start. it is the head of one of the most popular and controversial networks on tv. this man here. a new book does not paint a nice portrait. hear what roger ails said about bi...