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After 9:00 a.m., president trump spoke to the newly elected leader of ukraine. only minutes into the conversation, u.s. officials on the line grew alarmed. it's that 30 minute call from the residence of the white house that sits at heart of the first public congressional hearings. that could lead to the president's impeachment. for months trump has used one word to describe that call. >> it was prfect. >> perfect call. >> it was perfect. >> insistsing nothing out of the ordinary. even telling president zelensky i would like you to do us a favor though. investigate a conspiracy theory to under ...

Information about his other calls with the ukrainian leaders and this is the second call that we know of that he had with the ukrainian president, zelensky, took place in chronological order. it was the first call that happened, it was zelensky had a landslide election victory. there's very little known about this call. there has not been the kind of hubbub around the first call, it did not promise the same kind of concerns amongst national security officials, as the second call in july did. certainly interesting to see the president now promising to release the rough transcript of that call. ...

Not like likely to underscore the favor that the president, you know, talks about in the july call even though he said it was a, you know, perfect call. so all of this, too, is coming as house republicans have submitted this list, the wish list of witnesses, hunter biden being on that as well. democrats not likely to sign after on that. what is the point? >> yeah, i think there are sort of three levels of points here. i think the first as jeremy pointed out, it's to sort of frame the narrative that, you know, that the president at least believes, i think the house republicans are going to try ...

President's narrative a little bit more than some of the others. >> jeremy diamond, thank you so much. with me now, ross gar ber who teach impeachment law at tulane law school and a cnn legal analyst. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> let's talk about the second transcript the president is promising as early as tuesday. why would he want to do this, what might be in this call? >> presumably he wants to release it because there is nothing bad in the call for him, and notably, as jeremy noted, this is the week the house starts holding public hearings and so i think if this call is in inn...

Camera and this was no exception. the president defended his phone call with ukrainian president zelenzky from july 25th and despite the fact that he wants to know the io tenio of whistleblower, trump today as he said in the past, he called that phone call a, quote, perfect call, back in washington specifically on capitol hill the president continues to call out not only pelosi but also house intelligence chairman adam schiff, he also called for that whistleblower not only to come forward but to answer questions. there are whistleblower protections but the president believes his team has a rig...