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You know, kristen, this would go beyond talking. and i guess since he's still talking about it, what more do we know? >> well, chris, here's what we know. i am at the winter white house by the way, here in mar-a-lago. here's what we know. i spoke with a former senior administration official who said no one should really be surprised by this because these are comments that president trump has floated publicly. as you just pointed out, chris, they're ideas that he's been talking about since he was a candidate on the campaign trail. it does raise a lot of questions about his relationship with his...

When his name is not on the ticket. as we'll witness taking place tomorrow. here's how sarah sanders framed one of the real questions which is a concern among the president's allies, they might be able to hold on the senate republicans but the house might be a tougher go. >> if the democrats win the house, what are folks in the white house talking about? >> look, i still hope that republicans win the house, but if they don't, i think that what you've seen the democrats start talking about is the only message they have and that's one of obstruction. they have no policies. they have no solutions...

He said something in 2016. voter fraud doesn't exist the way the president is framing it. it seems silly to correct him on this because the truth is out there. he clearly believes if he's saying it, there are people out there who will believe it and those people will get to the polls. >> he's right. he knows he has the biggest megaphone if he just repeats things, it doesn't matter if they are false. it will sink in with some parts of the electorate. you remember back in 2016 when the president was saying for the last month or so of the election that he thought the whole thing was going to be r...

And this person, instead, according to the new york times chose not only to stay, but to under mine what president trump and this administration are trying to do. and i have to tell you i find t the media's efforts incredibly disturbi disturbing. and i will also your other question directly. someone will say you didn't answer the question, it's not mine. >> it is interesting to hear how he is framing it. i think the person has more than a single option to leave. the whole case is that this person has chosen to stay to work in the administration to stop some of the president's impulsivity. >> y...

Ly done so far? >> you know, i don't think cohen is trying to do some sort of reverse psychology on the president. i do think he's actually trying to defend his reputation. the sense that i get of this, especially i had a conversation earlier today with a person quite close to cohen and that person's explanation of this ex look, if cohen was trying to get the president to come back to him, to woo him or pay his legal bills, he would be doing the opposite of what he's doing. he wouldn't go talk to george stephanopolous. he wouldn't hire lanny davis who of all the lawyers in d.c. is known as one...