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Interference to disrupt a potential target on tack, and they were concerned why he wasn't degree briefed for longer than 50 minutes. i think that's a legitimate criticism. >> we have to end it there. jeff toobin and fran koun send. i appreciate it. we'll be back. something i want to leave you with, something we've up never seen before in new orleans. a super bowl trophy, oh, yeah, james carville and marchy matalin joining me next to talk about the saints' big win and what it it means for the city. ( stove dings ) cup-cakes! cup-cakes! cup-cakes! ( cheering ) announcer: relax. pam helps you pul...

Into this sort of headache for everybody? >> well, i think part of it was a grassroots movement in lower man hapt tan that kept the issue alive. to me the big issue was the christmas day attempted hijacking, which rat chetted up the tension on terrorism against, turned this issue into a political hot potato and it i think it pafkally opened the floodgates in this case, and the mayor, the police commissioner and senator shoe measure said we don't want it here. i think it makes it impossible to hold it here. >> fran, why do you think the president continues to hedge a little bit. why not come ou...

Logistical issues involved. if you have a city saying no and a police department that's saying no and mayor that's saying no, that makes it difficult. >> so what exactly is going on here? we check in with fran koun send, who was president bush's homeland security adviser and also jeffrey toobin with me right now in new york. jeff you think it's a foregone conclusion and not happening in new york. >> it's over now. >> that was my read on what he said, too. >> this subject has gone from a fairly controversial but settled decision to a political and legal train wreck. there is no answer out there...