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They said there's no evidence of fraud. a state court judge in a hearing just said, cool it with the fraud talk. there's really no credible evidence that's been put forward whatsoever. this seems to be a calculated strategy to try to de-legitimate whatever might come in the recounts, in the event that bill nelson overtakes the lead against scott. i mean, the very idea that scott is weighing in on the contest, where he has control over the secretary of state, who he appoints, where he is a candidate on the ballot, that just shows you how dysfunctional the way this election is being conducted in...

And added to the kind of technical problems with how the election is being run, you have got very strict deadlines, and you've got both parties running to court. it really does seem like a replay of bush versus gore, except now it's even worse because you have the president and the governor of florida both making completely unsubstantiated claims of the election being stolen and of fraud being committed by election officials. and i think that adds to the kind of toxicity and the volatility of the whole situation. >> you don't buy the fraud talk? >> well, i can tell you that scott -- governor s...

We're seeing play out in florida? >> well, it's kind of a repeat of what we saw in 2000. you've got a toxic mix of partisan election officials, some incompetent, some bad ballot design. we may have lost 24,000 or more votes in broward county because of how the ballot was designed. and added to the kind of technical problems with how the election is being run, you have very strict deadlines and both parties running to court. it really does seem like a replay of bush versus gore, although now it's even worse because you have the president and the governor of florida both making completely unsubs...