Scene where there was a great deal of blood. and the perpetrator or perpetrators would certainly have been bloody as they left. and i'm sure they're asking the public to try to determine did someone come home, did someone have some blood on their clothes? did someone take clothes and try to wash it that may have blood on it? so they're clearly asking the public for their help also. dave:ed ted, final question, it's got to be quick. the longer this case goes unresolved, are we closer to a cold case? >> we are getting closer, but we're not at a cold case. but the longer it goes, david, you're ab...