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Imploding. so why -- >> many experts in the field of health care disagree with that. all i'm saying. >> i couldn't hear you because i was trying to talk over you. le go i a head i'll let you talk. >> i'm saying experts disagree with the notion that broek obam is failing. but we all know that the aca needs fixing. i'm saying the president promised better. >> that's like the tobacco company saying. >> -- >> its -- these are the experts on that subject. >> we'll get the math, chris. super healthy young people would rather pay the tax penalty than enter the system. >> of course they would. they'd ...

White house is to make the boss happy and the best way to do that is to talk like the boss. >> you took copious and indecipherable notes. >> just look at the image. >> what did you hear? >> i think he gives a good spin but it's all impressionistic arguments. he was debating chris, one-on-one, but it was for an audience of one. the president of the united states. there's always a problem when people promote mini mes. he is a very smart advocate but he didn't deal with any of the substance. the argument about health care was all macro. freer system, de central ease the but specifically no detail...

Criticism. >> no, no, no. the that's exactly what you're doing. >> by suggesting you need to do it the right way and make it better for people? >> that's being an establish men tarrian. >> because you're taking about once against the sclerosis and centralization and bureaucracy, all of the things that the people of the united states do not like about washington, d.c. and all of the reasons why the president was elected to come down here and try to disrupt it. now, my advice to these people here is give them the air cover, give them the opportunity, if it you want to blame it on him or us at th...

I had to septemberd a message. if he asked me to do something i'm actually going to go do it. i'm not a politician, chris. i'm going to be an entrepreneurial business executive that's going to try to inject some accountability into the system and what i told the people that work forme in the communication the department rjt i would like the leaks to stop. now all of the cynics around here and the tweets saying the leaks are never to go going to stop. you say you are acorrect. the but if i can dial back the leaks in h the department that i am representing and the department that i am running, t...

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