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Being held. this is her testimony. there was a freeze put on all kinds of aid and assistance because it was in the process at the time of an awful lot of reviews of foreign assistance. oh, you mean there was a policy within the administration to review foreign assistance and how wae're doing it because we spent a lot of money. and by the way, i'm not complaining about the money. i don't think anybody doesn't want to help, but we do need to know what's going on, and those are valid and important questions. manager crow told you that president -- president's ukraine policy was not strong against...

>> this pause in the security assistance aid, i -- >> i learned about on july 18th, the day before i left. >> there were several meetings about this, i believe you testified to. >> i said that i knew there was going to be a meeting in that time frame, and there was one put onto the schedule for the following week. of course, i had left, so i didn't attend that. >> is it fair to say it stops and starts in a like this, that sometimes it does happen? >> that's correct. >> i believe you had testified that there was a freeze put on all kinds of aid and assistance because it was in the process, at t...

Communications about your staff about how that came to be? >> i did not, no. >> you did learn about the pause in the security assistance aid. >> i learned that on july 18th the day before i left. >> there was several meetings about this, and i believe you testified to that? >> i said i knew there would be a meeting in that time frame and there was one put on the schedule for the following week, but of course i left so i didn't attend that. >> is it fair to say that it stops and starts in aid like this sometimes do happen. >> that's correct. >> and i believe you testified there was a freeze put...

Even though both of those holds appear to have been illegal. on top of that, we also got news about the trump white house in 2017 and 2018 holding up the provision of javelin missiles to ukraine. and holding them up not at that point in exchange for some investigation they wanted about joe biden. no, they held up the javelin missiles in 2017 and 2018 for a different reason. this is from today's newly released testimony by state department official catherine croft. quote, the javelins, the provision of the javelin missiles in late 2017, early 2018, do you recall whether there was ever a hold or...