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>> well, they're probably pretty good against the threat that they were against in january. when isis sees what the -- freshm french or americans or russians are going to do to counteract them, like a football team they're going to find seams in our defenses, and they're going to go in that direction. and that is what they did here, they found and exploited a weak ness and that will happen all through history. as we go forward every time we make a move they will make a counter move. 9/11, nobody on 9-10 would have believed that anybody with box cutters could kill 2500 people. but they changed the paradigm. >> this gets us to the question of isis if it was in fact isis, everybody seems to think it's isis. it seems like isis. they're now moving from a regional threat to an