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But that kind of pattern or practice could still lead organizations like the trump organization, for instance, to face a violation if they were going to be investigated. they could be the organization and not anyone specifically in it. >> all right, thank you, leon fresco. appreciate you taking a few minutes. >> thank you. up next, an avalanche of new polling on the democratic presidential race. we know who the front-runner is, but guess who is moving up? i'm heading over to the big board. you're watching "hardball." [leaf blower] you should be mad at leaf blowers. [beep] you should be mad y...

He's introduced several initiatives that resonate with people across america, but he doesn't get the coverage that joe biden gets or bernie sanders gets. so i think we have to acknowledge that. and we also have to look at polling. who is responding to these polls? a lot of the polls they go through land lines, people who are answering their phones in the middle of the day from an unknown number. well, how many younger people do you know who does that? >> there is a variety of methodologies. there are folks who do cell phone. there are folks who do online. >> i will just say, chris, i've been v...

An incredible announcement. he's introduced several initiatives that resonate with people across america, but he doesn't get the coverage that joe biden gets or bernie sanders gets. so i think we have to acknowledge that. and we also have to look at polling. who is responding to these polls? a lot of the polls they go through land lines, people who are answering their phones in the middle of the day from an unknown number. well, how many younger people do you know who does that? >> there is a variety of methodologies. there are folks who do cell phone. there are folks who do online. >> i will ...

About policy. they care about venling, passion, attitude and can't be persuaded otherwise. >> like he is saying. rand paul finds himself struggling in this poll in iowa. he polls just 5%. that puts him back in seventh place. in new hampshire, the latest polling hat paul at 6%. a decline of 7 points just since march. and nationally, it is the same story. the nbc the poll with just 6% support. that is good enough for just eighth place. and michael steele, i think the rick for rand paul is simple. what donald trump is tapping into is anger at the political system and disgust with anybody who is a...

>> by the way, it's worth was the white house. pointing out that the polling >> you have to think about these among republican primary voters members are now home on recess. suggest there's virtually no gender gap at this point for and what of the air waves going donald trump. to be filled with that. that women are as likely to this is something that is very support him nearly as likely as men are. immediate. >> let's keep this all in constituents have a very perspective. >> sure. visceral reaction to this. >> rudy giuliani and fred we've seen it on the republican debate stage. on the campaign...