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Question, where these devices were. talked to one or several might have been in garbage cans. london, familiar with that from the old days of the ira attacks. others hidden in subway stations in london, not too many summers ago. similarry in madrid. what do you make of this? >> all too familiar. for anybody remembers the bombing campaign of the irish run party -- irish republican party, they were the ones who perfected the idea of a device in a trash can. so much so it became so common on the streets of london, that at one point every single trash can was removed from the streets. >> neil: ill...
Look like they're the obstructionists today. plus one group making sure the republicans don't blink in this game of chicken, the tea party. they rallied in washington urging the republicans to hold the line. but it comes as a second poll in two days shows the tea party steadily losing some popularity in the middle of the electorate, is that party ending? also, let's face it, in one week donald trump has transformed himself into the nation's leading birther, which he doesn't like that term, by the way. he's jumping into a cesspool where a lot of republicans have been lurking. we'll ask stra...
Republican say on air trump is an obama plant. you know, he's just bringing it up just to embarrass the party. >> that was also during those three days, that also part of the conspiracy. that trump is really secretly work for obama. >> that's right. in fact, trump actually placed the ads in the hawaiian newspaper so that 49 years later he could come back and do this. todd's absolutely right. this is a problem for the republicans because every too many a republican gets up there and makes this argument the american people -- and independents in particular roll their eyes and go what are they do...
Candidate like newt gingrich is going to be against it. they're going to side with the tea party, with the base of the party and say we need to fight for more. the reality is, again, the shutdown risk that gingrich might be willing to take, even though he says he's not for a shutdown, he might be willing to take it. i don't think john boehner wants it. i know the president doesn't want it. they would prefer to avoid that shutdown, avoid the risk that comes both substantive and political with taking that on going into the unknown. >> what's the likelihood of a shutdown? it seems as if all the l...