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Ovation. >> so some parades right then. balance that with jonathan strom reporter with the conservative national review, listening to that said from conversations last night i would take all the praise from bohner from the republicans with a grain of salt undercurrents of unrest. how do you read bohner right now? >> i think there are a lot of things, they offer him an easier time next time around. they're not angry at bohner, it was good he not their fight for them. some of them, you didn't play this clip, trey dowdy said, we did this. we got nothing for it. he supported it. the rest of the kw...

Candidate like newt gingrich is going to be against it. they're going to side with the tea party, with the base of the party and say we need to fight for more. the reality is, again, the shutdown risk that gingrich might be willing to take, even though he says he's not for a shutdown, he might be willing to take it. i don't think john boehner wants it. i know the president doesn't want it. they would prefer to avoid that shutdown, avoid the risk that comes both substantive and political with taking that on going into the unknown. >> what's the likelihood of a shutdown? it seems as if all the l...

>> no. eight out of ten voters don't want it. if the leadership wanted to go down the shutdown route, they'd have done it already. so i think we're beyond that point now and also, i think the republicans are playing a game saying democrats want the shutdown, they have the schumer stuff. everyone is trying to make everyone look unreasonable. but boehner's compromise with the tea party folks is not that different from what pelosi had to do in terms of holding on to her group and saying i'm fighting as hard as i can. if i have to lose some people and they look like they have pushed me as hard as ...

I can almost guarantee you that every republican presidential candidate like newt gingrich is going to be against it. they're going to side with the tea party, with the base of the party and say we need to fight for more. the reality is, again, the shutdown risk that gingrich might be willing to take, even though he says he's not for a shutdown, he might be willing to take it. i don't think john boehner wants it. i know the president doesn't want it. they would prefer to avoid that shutdown, avoid the risk that comes both substantive and political with taking that on going into the unknown. >>...