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be predisposed to help. and the wife, is somebody you would want to follow. i remember one fugitive case that i was working, we just went out and found anybody who this person trusted and set up surveillance on them. , and one guy who lived alone, came home one night and he had two bags of fast food and drinks with him. [laughter] if you lives alone, he's got a visitor and that's where the person was. >> interesting, and what do you think will likely happen to the suspect now? >> well he is going to be remained into custody, he's got a 5 million-dollar bail amount, i'm surprised that he got any bail with his history and he is going to be charged almost certainly for capital murder and it is going to be hard to fight that with the witnesses

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frequently i would go to their phone records. i would go through any information which would give me a list of their family and friends. and then i would find out who might be -- who might be, you know, helping him, who might be predisposed to help him. the wife is somebody you would want to follow. i remember one fugitive case that i was working, we saw -- we just went out and found anybody who this person trusted and set up surveillance on them. and one guy who lived alone, he came home one night and he had two bags of fast food and two drinks. if he lives alone, he's got a visitor, and that's where the person was. >> interesting. and what do you think will likely happen to the suspect now? >> well, he's going to be remanded at custody. he got a $5 million bail amount. i'm surprised he got any bail

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months before gary triano was killed? >> yeah. >> and what was interesting about his choice of hotels, it was geographically almost halfway between where gary triano and the la paloma country club. >> where he played golf every day? >> yes. >> and even more suspicious, ron young stayed under a phony name. the name of one of the people he was accused of defrauding in aspen. but that was well before the murder. and there was no evidence that ron young was in tucson when the bomb went off. >> reporter: anything in ron young's record or possession that suggested he either knew how to or was involved in building a remote control bomb? >> no. >> and he's got no history of working with explosives? >> that's correct. >> reporter: still, detective james gamber desperately wanted to talk with ron young. >> aspen police was looking for him, it was an active fugitive case going on, because they had a fraud warrant. but he basically just fell off

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he was accused of defrauding in aspen. but that was well before the murder. and there was no evidence that ron young was in tucson when the bomb went off. >> reporter: anything in ron young's record or possession that suggested he either knew how to or was involved in building a remote control bomb? >> no. >> and he's got no history of working with explosives? >> that's correct. >> reporter: still, detective james gamber desperately wanted to talk with ron young. well >> it was an active fugitive case going on, because they had a fraud warrant. but he basically just fell off the face of the earth. >> reporter: who was ron young? and what was his relationship with pam phillips? nine days after the murder of her ex funds beyond, pam phillips agreed to come down to the sheriff's department for an interview. that conversation was recorded. >> i want to ask you about your

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>> and he's got no history of working with explosives? >> that's correct. >> reporter: still, detective james gamber desperately wanted to talk with ron young. well >> it was an active fugitive case going on, because they had a fraud warrant. but he basically just fell off the face of the earth. >> reporter: who was ron young? and what was his relationship with pam phillips? nine days after the murder of her ex funds beyond, pam phillips agreed to come down to the sheriff's department for an interview. that conversation was recorded. >> i want to ask you about your relationship with ron young. >> yeah. >> reporter: coming up -- >> the word that i was getting was that it was his former wife. and that this was his insurance policy. >> reporter: pam phillips day with detectives. >> she knew he was going to be -- >> reporter: too many reasons to be suspicious?

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rivera but in the sarah root case that the law was named after. after she was killed the judge set bond at 50,000. a relative met the 5,000 or 10% and he hasn't been seen since. so sarah's law is based on now a fugitive case. >> yes. edwin mahea basically ditched the country. he was allowed to do that and he was probably long gone out of the country before sarah had even been laid to rest. so, we have got to correct this issue. sarah's law would be an important part of that. it's why we need to get it passed. now, the president in january of 2017, he did sign an executive order which implements a number of pieces of sarah's law but we need to have it codified. congress needs to act. >> harris: all right. and it begs the question as you were just asking about who implements this and where the politics are around the group known as ice. senator ernst of the great state of iowa, i'm sorry that it was for these circumstances but thank you for catching us up on the

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try and pursue, anderson. >> you've had along career, art, tracking down fugitives here in the united states. how hard is it for somebody to cover their tracks or how easy is it? >> if you can -- every one of these criminal case, every fugitive case i've worked we try to get to the communication device whether a cell phone, computer, whatever they were using to communicate with support systems or to get resources. once we got a hold of that device, we could exploit it either track through tracking or monitoring their messaging and it would always come back to that particular devicdevice. so it's key in the investigations. >> i keep coming back to the fact this is a married couple and have the advantage maybe there is a larger network but certainly have the advantage of being in the same place and they don't need to communicate with each other. they can do that face-to-face. >> they can but when you look at like the stuff that's been seized, we saw several of the

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