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A politician. >> he doesn't mind being made fun of, but he has credibility with a lot of different groups. i mean, think about, you know, there's a great piece in "huffington post" about one summer in 19 2 he was a lifeguard and a pool and how that affected his thoughts about race and class and that that is something he took with him to the fight about the assault weapons ban, and so clearly this is a guy who is the sum total of a lot of different experiences that he is not afraid to, again, wear it on his sleeve. >> this is the man that said of eric cantor, this is our vice president, right? ...

That's how we roll here in america. we love celebrities. we just need to knock them down a peg. so, don, just suck it up. >> his lawyer sent me a letter. attached here is a copy of mr. trump's birth certificate demonstrating he's not an orangutan grksz. and look at the lawyer's signature. it just kind of trails off, as if to say i'm too embarrassed to even finish this. this is not a libel case. no, no, no. they seem to be trying to set a bold new president and jokes on late-night talk shows are now legally binding agreements. between the comedian and the person they're making fun of. yes, i'...

Romney campaign made fun of, they have field offices we don't need field offices volunteers are data collectors. what they do is go door-to-door, take polls, ask you three questions, call you during dinner, that's coming in and refining statistical model so that you know the next door to knock on and smarter targeting that. if you're funneling it through and linking it to the large-scale polling krur doing continuously for microtargeting it is give you a granular understanding of the electorate than tracking polls are. >> this what is they did this time that they didn't last time. they had dat...

Moderate republican. and one of the most distinguished military leaders since world war ii, general colin powell who also pointed out that his opponent's main advisors are the same neocons that took us into war in iraq on bad intelligence. barack obama is your choice for commander-in-chief. the fourth reason i'm for him can best be described in a phrase once used by the second president bush. believe it or not, he said something i really agree with. [ laughter ] >> and he often got made fun of, but it's true. he said the president is the decider-in-chief.

Theory and doesn't always bring it home. he's good with the white board. you have two different approaches here. and, you know, ryan making a connection the way that biden does, i think is a challenge for him. >> but the expectation -- i will say cnn poll last week asked voters who's going to win the presidential debate 55% say ryan, 39% say biden. is that because they think ryan is going to go less wonk or biden more gaffe? >> the broad perception, biden underrated. showing him without his shirt on washing his transam in the white house driveway. he is a gaffe machine, a guy easy to make fun ...