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effective education program among kids who need help and that's what lou katz was going to do. >> it was a funfundraiser right >> and dinner with doris afterward. >> i saw a detail here. you've written on his gulf stream fives, but he has several airplanes of his own. >> no for this reason that got out last night. it's not true. >> clarify. >> one of his two gulfstreams and it was his pilots who, andrea, looked at that plane, if there was a spot of water out of place, they would put the plane down and make sure it got maintained. they were brilliant pilots, none of us can figure out how it happened and it was his crew -- when we heard it was a charter plane we were hoping it was because we knew his pilot and stew ardess and hoping they