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And they would often make an argument that resonates with what we're experiencing now. the verdict form will only have two lines, guilty and not guilty. i wish it had a third line and that was innocent, exonerated. but because my client is innocent, they worry. but that drives home the point that even if the senate aquits him, that is far from announcing he is innocent, far from an exoneration. and my greatest fear is if they vote not to convict him, they vote to acquit, they're voting in favor of future interference in our election, they're voting in favor of the president attaching personal ...

Him, lavrov, not putin, mind you, but the foreign minister, what happens in your heart and head? >> well, this is an unthinkable scene. i mean first of all, just on protocol grounds, what is the russian foreign minister doing having a bilateral meeting with the president of the united states? >> his equivalent is the secretary of state. >> correct. he would be normally, in the normal course of things, if there weren't something else going on at the state department with his counterpart. but also again remember the dog that isn't barking, the zelensky oval office meeting at a head of state leve...

Doing having a bilateral meeting with the president of the united states? >> his equivalent is the secretary of state. >> correct. he would be normally in the normal course of things, if there weren't something else going on at the state department with his counterpart. but also, again, remember the dog that isn't barking. the zelensky oval office meeting at a head of state level that isn't happening. so the message here is you interfered in our election, i'll pretend it didn't happen for the duration of my presidency, won't do anything to keep our election infrastructure safe from future inte...

But better to start that recovery process sooner rather than later. that's for sure. >> when you see a picture like the scene today in the oval office with our president seated andr grinning and looming abov him lavrov. not putin, mind you, but the foreign minister. what happens in your heart and head? >> well, this is an unthinkable scene. just on protocol grounds, what is the russian foreign minister doing having a bilateral meeting with the president of the united states? >> his equivalent is thewi secretary of state. >> correct. he would be normally in the normal course of e things, if the...

Community confirming that russia interfered on the president's behalf with the election. so when you put that together with the firing of comey and now his language with the russians, there's very little other way to interpret this, but a green light for the russians and essentially a forgiveness as is reported in this article. three former officials actually interpret this as forgiveness of the russian interference and a green light for possible future interference. you know many of us were wondering and ever since, what was the russians may have on the president. how could they have compromi...