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Demonstrate that iran is from their perspective violating, if not literal letters of the agreement but the spirit of the agreement by doing a lot of other bad things, including support for terrorism and missile advances, all of these thing are true. but the fact that iran was never constrained by the nuclear deal because the previous administration decided that it should be a narrowly determined nuclear deal. this is also a connection there. north korea. kim jong-un, according to a lot of reporting, and it is a very hard intelligence target, is not just crazy. that there is a logic to what he ...

Compareson. if you think about the fail of hussein or gadhafi, they are two guys, two dictators who didn't have nuclear weapons. kim jong-un looks at them and thinks, they are dead. >> well, yes. of course, north korea has nuclear weapons ambitions, precisely for survival as everybody is saying. it's more than that. it's trivial to say it's the reason it's for survival. every state wants survival, including the united states. what is happening is north korea is trying to change the fundmental strategic balance in all of east asia. the reason chin and russia are at least attempting to play the ...

Your program. that's a perfect example of why it's going to be very hard to persuade him to give up his nuclear weapons. because we persuaded gaddafi, not three years later they said we don't like gadhafi very much and it's time to get rid of him and they did. and i'm sure that every dictator in the world looked at that and said that's what happens when you deal with the west and the americans and you don't have nuclear weapons. so we've got some credibility problem said going forward. first thing stabilize this, stop the escalation of rhetoric. deal directly with the north koreans on this and...

When push came to shove, no one supported him. so i think, you know, when he is sitting there making his analysis, that's part of the pit under. the other part of the picture is got to be what happened to gadhafi after he gave up the epwithens, weapons, after he trusted. he was killed by his own people. that's got to be going through kim's mind as well. the gadhafi experience is not one that's going to work well in kim's mind for coming to the table to talk. >> can still see the pictures of the golden gun, nic robertson. thank you. your op-ed, cnn.com. appreciate you. more on the breaking news...

My conclusion and other critics is that the process, because of the slow rampup of the filling of positions, of the deputy's positions and acting secretaries, they just have not at all of the agencies defense and state in particular, gotten up to speed. and they're not really functioning to game plan all there. >> bruce, it's a pretty frightening picture that andrea paints. i wonder if i could get you to weigh in all of the talk now privately and publicly is on how to motivate the north korean leader to give up his nuclear arsenal if the last two men to do so ended up dead, saddam hussein and ...