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Ma maybe he says it's too early to meet with them. and jerusalem, like i said a week or two ago, that is another example. you throw it out. it's a chip. but then he goes, wait a second. we are going to pull back -- >> what i don't get is the gambling aspect of that, joe. he's there for a while. we have long-term interest and certainly long-term interest with mexico. this kind of early rupture just doesn't have goodividends, right? as i was saying beforee are the house now. we are not gambling and people don't want to see america gamble. >> i suspect actually his attitude is, i'm just guessing,...

Roberts, a former sportswriter and founder and ceo of a digital sports network. the hall of famer harry carson who played with the new york giants for more than a decade which does include a super bowl win. congratulations on that. mike is a sports reporter for the npr. waiting for his first super bowl victory, i think. in las vegas johnny is the executive director of the racing sports operations for the casino wind las vegas. thank you for joining us. the gambling aspect of super sunday, i've talked to so many people who aren't just talking about do you think it's the seahawks or the broncos ...