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>> and you talk about allocation of resources. here we're talking about $5.6 billion for this wall. in your piece, you point out places where that money might be better spent to combat homegrown terrorism. >> exactly. i think the threat of terrorism that we are most worried about in the united states is attached to homegrown extremists. people who are attached to an ideology like that of al qaeda or isis or some form of terrorist organization, but in reality they were born here or spent most of their formative years here or they became radicalized while they were here. they did not come here a...

Going to stand firm for that. that's exactly the right mow situation. we have to keep making the argument and the american people have to keep speaking up in support of it. that's when we get the democrats to do the right thing. >> neil: the president says in the name of national security he can do this on his own. can he? >> i think he can but that will get challenged in court. that's why this is the better approach. to appropriate dollars by the government to do what we said we were going to do. if you want to deal with the gang problems, the human trafficking problem, the drugs problems, bu...

Right compared to the other folks who are trying to do everything right to get into the country. charles: and there's no doubt that i think more recently in america, maybe it's the fault of the media, but there's been a lot of conflating on what are legitimate reasons to seek asylum versus leaving a country because there are no economic opportunities. >> let me just say, if i lived in el salvador with my three daughters, i bet you dollars to doughnuts i'd be trying to get up here too. it's got one of the highest murder rates, it has economic problems, it has gang problems. so when you really k...

The dhs secretary, she is blaming rulings from activist judges. you're talking about a political solution here. to solve the problem that your town is facing, what remedy would you like to see congress bring? >> well, let me start at the beginning. first of all, we do need to control our borders. that's a given. but we have all these problems in latin america that i don't think our foreign aid is helping any. you have the gang problems. you have the reason they're coming up here. they're credible reasons for their needing asylum. but we have to deal with the immigration to begin with. we have ...

The democrat challenging dave brat is a former cia operative. she can't even tell us what countries she was stationed in. if she's able to pull off an upset there, it will be significant. the important vital context to remember when we're talking about the president's rhetoric on immigration, of course, is that it's incorrect. the president's closing argument has been that democrats are inviting people to illegally enter the united states. first, these people are not coming because democrats are inviting them. they're coming from very dangerous countries in central america in large part becaus...