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Area. i understand that george bush put in place, his administration put in place a unit there to train africans to fight off the emerging islamic threat, correct? >> yeah, there's a u.s. military organization that looks at africa as a theater of operations and we have bilateral agreements with a great number of african countries that's bringing their special forces. >> yeah, what i understand is this is what makes it potent. there's a large area. it's a wide islamic population and there's a lot of room to grow. correct, gary? >> significant poverty. also along with that, lots of room to grow....

And captures or kills mean you push down and squeeze them out. isn't that what's happening with the success in pakistan and afghanistan? if we don't kill them, they're moving on. >> i think to some extent, that's exactly right. we have, today, about eight or nine islamic insurgencies around the world in places where they were either very minimal or nonexistent. the growth in islamic radicalism in violence has been quite significant since 2001. >> right. and mike, thanks so much for joining us and gary, you're a busy guy. you're now running for congress right here in long island! >> new york's ...

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